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n.cocteau
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Hi, thanks for the nice Program.

 

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My Preferences...

Metadata:

* Add Camera RAW format support > Write tags to sidecar .xmp files (except DNG format)

* Add video format support > ON

* Add compatibility with old programs > OFF

* Preserve file modified date when updating metadata > OFF

 

1: JPEG and RAW with the same Base-Filename:

* all Items are syncronized :)

* tagging of JPEG and RAW file, with different values. ( DAMINION01_RAW_JPG_XMP.jpg )

* Write Tags to Files

* JPEG is not changed.

* Sidecar XMP changed.

* JPEG File > Read Tags to File

* JPEG and RAW have the same Metadata's

 

2: JPEG (Only) and Sidecar with the same Base-Filename:

* DAMINION read Metadata's from JPEG- and Sidecar-Tags.

* tagging the JPEG File > Write Tags to File

* JPEG or Sidecar is not changed.

 

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My First Wishes:

Read and Write to Sidecar File, only if exist ( JPEG_0005.JPG JPEG_0005.JPG.XMP ).

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Hi N.Cocteau!

 

I am sorry for the delay with answer - during the past few days we were busy a bit with optimizing preview rendering.

 

Thanks for the valuable testing and report. The problem you've mentioned was fixed, and a new update will be ready during a few days.

 

But Daminion will ignores .xmp sidecars in case of the JPEG files.

 

We'll take into account .xmp sidecars only for those formats that permit writing XMP block into the files themself (Camera RAW, Video).

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Daminion 0.9.6 (build 639)

 

Settings: AutoSync > OFF

 

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Folder : JPEG Files Only

* JPEG_0039.JPG

* JPEG_0061.JPG (File Attribut Read-only)

 

1: New tagging of JPEG_0039.JPG and JPEG_0061.JPG

OK: Files are not changed to HD.

2: Show Unsynced Files

OK: JPEG_0039.JPG and JPEG_0061.JPG

 

3: Select > JPEG_0039.JPG > Sync > Write Tags to File

OK: JPEG_0039.JPG File is changed to HD

 

4: Select > JPEG_0061.JPG > Sync > Write Tags to File

OK: JPEG_0061.JPG File are not changed to HD. (File Attribut Read-only) No warning!

 

5: Show Unsynced Files

FAIL: JPEG_0039.JPG and JPEG_0061.JPG, both images are displayed

 

6: Select > JPEG_0039.JPG and JPEG_0061.JPG > Sync > Write Tags to File

7: Show Unsynced Files

FAIL: JPEG_0039.JPG and JPEG_0061.JPG, both images are displayed

 

8: Click Start to syncing Tags with Metadata ( AutoSync > ON )

OK: JPEG_0039.JPG File is changed to HD

OK: JPEG_0061.JPG File are not changed to HD. (File Attribut Read-only) No warning!

 

9: Show Unsynced Files

FAIL: No Items match your search criteria. JPEG_0061.JPG ?

 

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Folder : RAW Files Only

* IMG_103-1139.CR2 (File Attribut Read-only)

 

1: New tagging of IMG_103-1139.CR2 > Write Tags to File

OK: IMG_103-1139.CR2 File are not changed to HD. (File Attribut Read-only) No warning!

and FAIL: IMG_103-1139.XMP was not created.

 

2: IMG_103-1139.CR2 > Remove File Attribut Read-only

OK: IMG_103-1139.CR2 File are not changed to HD. (puuuhh, I'm a happy and relieved. :)

OK: IMG_103-1139.XMP was created.

 

Wishes: Please make sidecars, even if the file is read-only.

 

 

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Test's: JPEG and Sidecar Files, Mixed ( JPEG; RAW; ) and Sidecar Files, coming soon

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Folder : JPEG and RAW Files

* IMG_103-0605.CR2 (untagget)

* IMG_103-0605.JPG (untagget)

 

1: New tagging of IMG_103-0605.JPG > set to Label Pink > Write Tags to File

OK: IMG_103-0605.JPG File is changed to HD

 

2: select > IMG_103-0605.JPG > Read Tags from File

OK: IMG_103-0605.JPG = Label Pink

 

3: New tagging of IMG_103-0605.CR2 > set to Label Blue > Write Tags to File

OK: IMG_103-0605.CR2 is unchanged and IMG_103-0605.xmp is created.

OK: IMG_103-0605.xmp is set to Xmp.Label=Blue

 

4: select > IMG_103-0605.CR2 > Read Tags from File

FAIL: Label is not Blue

 

5: New tagging of IMG_103-0605.JPG > set to Label Orange > Write Tags to File

FAIL: IMG_103-0605.JPG File is unchanged to HD

 

6: delete IMG_103-0605.xmp File

7: New tagging of IMG_103-0605.JPG > set to Label Orange > Write Tags to File

OK: IMG_103-0605.JPG File is changed to HD

 

 

I think. Daminion is a bit perplexed and confused :D

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4: select > IMG_103-0605.CR2 > Read Tags from File

FAIL: Label is not Blue

 

There was a bug in Daminion and the program didn't write XMP:MetadataDate to xmp sidecar file after changing it's metadata. This field is used to compare which file is newer: CR2 with XMP Block or its XMP sidecar. And based on this information we decide where is located the most actual metadata info. The bug was fixed in the 642 build. Thank you!

 

5: New tagging of IMG_103-0605.JPG > set to Label Orange > Write Tags to File

FAIL: IMG_103-0605.JPG File is unchanged to HD

 

I was unable to reproduce this issue. Is the file marked as Readonly?

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Video Files and Sidecars.

Please use the Video Sidecars Extension: THM (DCF thumbnail file)

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Design_rule_for_Camera_File_system

http://www.sno.phy.queensu.ca/~phil/exiftool/TagNames/EXIF.html

 

Canon 7D: IMG_103-0397.CR2 and IMG_103-0397.THM
EXIF:IFD0:Camera:Main	Make	Canon
EXIF:IFD0:Camera:Main	Model	Canon EOS 7D
EXIF:IFD0:Time:Main	ModifyDate	2012-09-18 15:00:42
EXIF:IFD0:Author:Main	Artist	Heiko Cocteau
EXIF:ExifIFD:Time:Main	DateTimeOriginal	2012-09-18 15:00:42
EXIF:ExifIFD:Time:Main	CreateDate	2012-09-18 15:00:42
EXIF:ExifIFD:Time:Main	SubSecTime	86
EXIF:ExifIFD:Time:Main	SubSecTimeOriginal	86
EXIF:ExifIFD:Time:Main	SubSecTimeDigitized	86
MakerNotes:Canon:Video:Main	Duration	10.00 s
MakerNotes:Canon:Video:Main	VideoCodec	avc1
MakerNotes:Canon:Audio:Main	AudioBitrate	1.54 Mbps
MakerNotes:Canon:Audio:Main	AudioSampleRate	48000
MakerNotes:Canon:Audio:Main	AudioChannels	2
MakerNotes:Canon:Time:Main	TimeZone	+02:00
MakerNotes:Canon:Time:Main	TimeZoneCity	Paris
MakerNotes:Canon:Time:Main	DaylightSavings	On
***

From the old Camera: MVI_2179.THM 
EXIF:IFD0:Camera:Main	Make	Canon
EXIF:IFD0:Camera:Main	Model	Canon DIGITAL IXUS 50
EXIF:ExifIFD:Time:Main	DateTimeOriginal	2007-04-26 20:05:01
EXIF:ExifIFD:Time:Main	CreateDate	2007-04-26 20:05:01
MakerNotes:Canon:Image:Main	CanonImageWidth	640
MakerNotes:Canon:Image:Main	CanonImageHeight	480
MakerNotes:Canon:Image:Main	CanonImageType	MVI:DIGITAL IXUS 50 Movie
***

 

and I am very very sad. Too bad that even Daminion all metadata writes directly in the JPEG, TIFF etc. :( All my images are read-only.

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and I am very very sad. Too bad that even Daminion all metadata writes directly in the JPEG, TIFF etc. :( All my images are read-only.

 

Unable to reproduce it with 644 build. Daminion not saves metadata into JPEG and TIFF marked as Readonly.

 

Partial support for .THM files will be added in the next Daminion build: .thm sidecars will be renamed according to a base file naming rules, and Daminion will read metadata from .thm during file importing.

 

It's not clear how to write metadata into video or raw images when your media library contains files with different sidecars: part of the images might have .thm sidecar files another part - .xmp sidecar files.

 

I can suggested the next way:

- write to an existing sidecar file (.thm or .xmp) if only one sidecar is existed on a disk

- write to .xmp sidecar if both sidecar files are existed or no sidecars are found

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Unable to reproduce it with 644 build. Daminion not saves metadata into JPEG and TIFF marked as Readonly.

 

No, unfortunately misunderstood. All my images are read-only, so I can not syncronize or write to the images.

 

I hope, therefore an option: read and write ONLY in sidecars.

Embed images: JPEG, TIFF, DNG, etc: filename.ext <> filename.ext.xmp

 

<rdf:Description rdf:about='' xmlns:photoshop='http://ns.adobe.com/photoshop/1.0/'>
 <photoshop:SidecarForExtension>ext</photoshop:SidecarForExtension>
</rdf:Description>

 

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a proposal, to save the Collection-Tags:

 

 

<rdf:Description rdf:about='' xmlns:mwg-coll='http://www.metadataworkinggroup.com/schemas/collections/'>
   <mwg-coll:Collections>
       <rdf:Bag>
           <rdf:li rdf:parseType='Resource'>
               <mwg-coll:CollectionName>Collection A</mwg-coll:CollectionName>
               <mwg-coll:CollectionURI>http://www.mysite.com/photos/collectionA</mwg-coll:CollectionURI>
           </rdf:li>
           <rdf:li rdf:parseType='Resource'>
               <mwg-coll:CollectionName>Collection B</mwg-coll:CollectionName>
               <mwg-coll:CollectionURI>http://www.mysite.com/photos/collectionB</mwg-coll:CollectionURI>
           </rdf:li>
       </rdf:Bag>
   </mwg-coll:Collections>
</rdf:Description>

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Thanks for the pointing to appropriate XMP specification fields. Could you please explain why you don't want to write metadata into JPEG files?

 

Regarding Collections: we plan to add a set of improvements to Collection tag and we can map it the MWG metadata as well as make it Hierarchical.

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